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Reporting, Sam.

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Yes, this is Chief of Police at Condon, Oregon.

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Yes.

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And I just had a young man come up to me and report a UFO.

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Okay.

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Took some information from him.

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He was out here north of Condon at the park.

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It's about two miles north.

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Yes.

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And he was looking north or being northwest.

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And over one of the farmhouses that sets out there, he said it appeared.

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And it had flashing lights that was red and clear.

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But some of the times they just stay on.

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This sighting occurred about 9.30 p.m. this afternoon.

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Okay.

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And a female companion with him was, he said this thing stayed in sight about 15 seconds.

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And he said that was at the most.

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He said it was flying, he said also there was an aircraft, airplane, flying, he said if you remember,

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right, it was flying west.

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And he said the flying object came underneath the aircraft.

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And then went way high and then came back down.

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And it's pretty bright around here tonight.

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He said there's a knoll that you can see out there.

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And he said the thing just went down over that knoll and disappeared heading towards the Columbia River.

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Well, okay, sir.

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Well, we sure appreciate this.

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We'll get in contact with the man and see if we can find out what he was observing.

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Okay.

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Good enough.

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We sure appreciate your cooperation, chief.

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You bet.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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I'm calling for the UFO reporting center in Washington.

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And we were advised by the chief of police, a con in that you had UFO sighting.

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We'd like to hear about it.

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Something you saw on August 3rd.

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Yeah.

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We were out north of town and we saw a red light and we didn't take too much about it.

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And it started jumping around really funny in the air going up and down around.

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It was really quick.

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And there was this airplane up there flying around and it was going pretty slow.

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And this thing, object, it kept flying towards me and stopping and going.

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And pretty soon it just got underneath and it just went right up to the airplane and went down and then just shot off.

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Oh, this thing seemed to be toying with the aircraft?

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No.

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It just kind of popped up to where the aircraft was and back down to where it was going across

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it.

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It was dying and it took off.

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Okay.

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Now did this come relatively close to the aircraft?

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Yeah.

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I would say very close.

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Okay.

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I know the aircraft probably had to see it.

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Okay.

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Now how long was that flying around that airplane?

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Do you have any idea?

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Probably about 15, 20 seconds.

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Okay.

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And at all times this thing just remained a bright or a red light?

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It was really sporadic when it was blank.

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And it kind of had yellowish and red.

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Okay, did it have any kind of shape to it?

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Uh-uh.

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We couldn't see it.

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Okay.

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But it was blinking or flashing?

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Well, it might blink twice red and then once, you know, that kind of yellowish color.

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Uh-uh.

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And then sometimes, you know, it wouldn't blink, but you know how you get to kind of tell when

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something's blinking and moving?

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Right.

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And then you can judge about how far it's going to go.

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But this thing, it would jump a long ways and then it'd stop.

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Then it'd go up and down.

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It's really weird.

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Now you say it could jump a long ways.

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Would it be like actually jumping across the sky or just moving across the sky?

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It was so quick when it moved really quick.

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I don't know how far away it was, but you can really tell when it'd go.

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It'd just shoot across and it'd stop.

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And I really could tell there was something wrong with it.

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It was just, when it was going along, it kind of just wouldn't really jump out to that plane

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and then went back down and then it just kind of shot off and then it stopped and just kind

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of went down on the other side of it.

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There's snow out here.

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And again, pretty slow.

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Okay.

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Okay, now when it would go shooting across the sky and stop, did that thing come to an

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abrupt stop?

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It wouldn't be moving because when it first started watching it was going on the clouds

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and you know, and the cloud wasn't moving.

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And you could tell what it was doing there.

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And then when it went down there, on the snow there, it wasn't going back or forth.

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And you just went straight down and then it looked like it was getting any further away.

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Okay.

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Now, comparing size, how large was that red light in comparison to the airplane?

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I'd probably say about five or six times.

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Smaller or larger?

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Larger.

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Okay.

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Now, you say that the thing moved up and down.

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Can you remember any other radical maneuvers or motions that this thing made?

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Backwards.

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It went backwards a few times.

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Uh-huh.

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Okay.

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Did you notice any change of color when this thing would increase speed or?

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Yeah, you could see the light.

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It was, it seemed like it wouldn't, the light had shined more and it was really going.

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Brighter?

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Yeah.

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And then there would be another change when this thing came to an abrupt start.

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And then it would go back kind of a blink and it would go out.

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And you know, the light would, it was funny because the light, when it would take off and get brighter,

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then it wouldn't blink as often.

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Uh-huh.

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Okay, would that be the red color at that time?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Did this, did the light come so close to the aircraft at any time that it would reflect its color onto the aircraft?

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No, I don't think so.

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Okay.

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Did that, do you remember whether that light approached the aircraft from the front at any time

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or put itself in a position where the pilot just couldn't help but see it?

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Well, I would say when it was first coming up on the aircraft, it would, you could have seen it.

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You know, when it was down below, it was underneath of it.

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And when it got to the aircraft, it just went up really close to it, then back down and then it took off.

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Okay.

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Did this appear to be a private type aircraft, small plane?

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Yeah, it was a steady blue light.

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You know, how airplane was moving slow, or the car.

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Right.

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Okay, could you pick up any sound while that was going on?

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Uh-huh.

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Okay.

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But what time is the first spot that you remember?

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No, probably close to nine o'clock.

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Okay.

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Which direction were you looking while this was taking place?

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It's about northwest.

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Northwest, okay.

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And when this object finally took off, which direction did it go?

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East.

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Okay.

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And you watched it as it faded into the distance?

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Well, it just went over the sky a little ways and then just went down.

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Okay, did that disappear behind the hills?

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It just, it was up in the air pretty far and it just kind of went straight down behind the snow.

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Oh, okay.

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That was the last you saw of it?

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Uh-huh.

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Okay.

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How were the sky conditions that night?

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Clear.

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Okay.

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There was one cloud in the sky and the first cloud we didn't know, we just tell what it was doing.

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It started watching it.

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There was just one cloud?

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Yeah.

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It just, when we first saw it, we noticed it in the cloud.

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You know, and then we could see it jumping up and down and it started watching it.

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You know, it worked for a while and it would go backwards.

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That was before it approached the aircraft?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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It was a weird thing that it probably just shot when I was watching it.

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Okay, now when it was jumping up and down, could you compare anything to that movement?

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Would this be a, have you ever seen an oscilloscope?

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What?

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An oscilloscope.

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Uh-huh.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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But sometimes you could definitely see it going backwards.

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Uh-huh.

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And then sometimes it had moved quite a ways.

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It's just like snapping the fingers.

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It's trying to just really take off.

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Just to streak across the sky.

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Yeah.

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And then it would stop, go backwards, all first.

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Okay, now when it was jumping up and down, when it was near that cloud, did it just jump up and down in that one area?

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Or was it jumping up and down as it moved across the sky?

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It would be jumping up and down and move backwards and shoot ahead all the way.

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Oh, I see, okay.

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And then when it got to that, underneath that airplane, you know, we could see it heading toward the airplane.

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And then when it got by airplane, it just really jumped up the airplane and then back down and took off.

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Uh-huh, okay.

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Did that light, was when you first saw it, it was in the cloud that you saw?

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It was just, you know, I just, I said there was an airplane up there.

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And then just happened to be watching it.

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And it started doing some backwards and up and down.

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Uh-huh.

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And then when it did that, when it went up to the airplane, that really got excited.

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Okay.

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Now, could I get the name of the party that was with you?

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The girl.

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Uh-huh.